for those of you with grinding gears

[ronjdm36]

i know that alot of people have those slight grinds in their trannies. here are some great syncros to get if you have that problem. i'm planning on picking a set of the carbon ones up. i have that infamous "3rd gear grind".

http://gearspeedinc.com/products.htm

[JdmRevelations]

damn those are sum impresive trannies.. but you can also use GM synchromesh manual tranny oil and usually helps a lot.. there is 2 kinds.. reg and modified, if your going to use the reg version you can save yourself a few bucks and buy Pensoils Synchromesh tranny fluid at the auto parts store.. i am using that and gears are smother... it takes a while to notice

[ronjdm36]

nah, i'm not getting a whole trans, just the carbon syncros.and i've heard some bad things about syncromesh fluid. it does good for a while and then it will wear out other things prematurely. this is what alot of techs say.

[crazyxzer0]

i want some proof with that syncromesh stuff. I really wanna know why it would premature wear our tranny parts..

I always use MTF but i have a slight 2nd gear grind..so I'm curious before I start trying other things..

[2coupes]

i have a slight grind in high rpm from 1st to 2nd

[Volume 8]

that's some cool stuff, i'ma have to get some of those when i rebuild my other tranny.

[JdmRevelations]

there is people on other boards that swear by the synchromesh... and like 1% people that say dont use it blah... i have yet to hear someone say "synchromesh messed up my tranny" i dont know how it would, any info behind that

[ronjdm36]

no, that's just heresay. i am gonna use it until i get my syncros replaced, so i'll let you guys know how it works out.

[JdmRevelations]

your going to use what? the synchromesh oil?

[ronjdm36]

yup.



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[JdmRevelations]

let us know what you think afterwords.. i have it in my tranny right now and noticed a diff. after like 100 miles or so..

[ronjdm36]

yeah, i figured why not. my 3rd is bad and they are gonna get replaced,so what the hell. i just have an odd grind. most peoples are at a high rpm during a fast shift. mine is the complete opposite. low rpm, slow shift= grind.......high rpm, fast shift= smoooooooth. i dunno, it's weird.

[PandaCoupe]

My car has the 3rd gear grind. I've noticed it at high rpm when i am shifting from 2nd to 3rd pretty quick, sometimes it wont go in gear at all. Like the shifter hits a wall and wont go any further, and then I let off of the clutch it grinds like hell. I have to knock it out of the partial 3rd gear its in and shift to 3rd again. Other than that its fine, high rpm or low in any gear

[G-rat]

My car has the 3rd gear grind. I've noticed it at high rpm when i am shifting from 2nd to 3rd pretty quick, sometimes it wont go in gear at all. Like the shifter hits a wall and wont go any further, and then I let off of the clutch it grinds like hell. I have to knock it out of the partial 3rd gear its in and shift to 3rd again. Other than that its fine, high rpm or low in any gear

thats odd...thats the same type of deal i got goin on....my 3rd is bad goin in when im in high rpms

[ronjdm36]

that's the most common problem people have with honda trannies.

[Strtciv93]

damn dude, nice find. Ill keep those in mind when my synchros start eating shit.

[hybred-1]

i have a slight grind in high rpm from 1st to 2nd



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i have this as well and at highway speed some times 5th gear pops into neutral....

i am going to change fluid this weekend i think.

steve

[Dina]

My car has the 3rd gear grind. I've noticed it at high rpm when i am shifting from 2nd to 3rd pretty quick, sometimes it wont go in gear at all. Like the shifter hits a wall and wont go any further, and then I let off of the clutch it grinds like hell. I have to knock it out of the partial 3rd gear its in and shift to 3rd again. Other than that its fine, high rpm or low in any gear

I had the same problem in my tranny and I took it down and it ended up being a spring from the clutch that had come of the disc and was binding up on the pressure plate. after I replaced the clutch the car has had no problems shifting what so ever!

[98ekhx]

yeah gear speed rocks, ive talked to them on h-t several times :TU:

pennzoil/gm synchromesh helped out my HX tranny a TON!!

ill prolly neglet my gsr tranny until i get get my b16 lsd tranny and then ill baby that, after i change out a few gears from the gsr into the b16 (5th for sure, maybe 3 & 4 too?)

[SittinTooLow]

My car has the 3rd gear grind. I've noticed it at high rpm when i am shifting from 2nd to 3rd pretty quick, sometimes it wont go in gear at all. Like the shifter hits a wall and wont go any further, and then I let off of the clutch it grinds like hell. I have to knock it out of the partial 3rd gear its in and shift to 3rd again. Other than that its fine, high rpm or low in any gear

^^ Mine does that too... although i think mine is probably worse..But ive made peace with the fact that my tranny is screwed.
Not the del sol, though.. its PERFECT. My EJ2 tranny is completely f^#&ed.

[SittinTooLow]

I do have a problem with my tranny too, that I'd like to bitch about. My EJ2 has a D16Y8 motor and tranny. When i bought the car, it grinded a little in third, you kindof had to shift softly. Anyway, slowly there has been alot of slack in the gears, like you put it in ANY gear and can wobble it around, as if its in neutral(but its still in gear) I mean its so bad that when i am in a gear and wobble it, it feels the same as neutral. Then I started noticed a rattling noise under the car. I knew it was associated with the slack in the gearbox cause my gear stick vibrates along with it.
I looked under the car, and the linkage is so loose that the linkage bars(proper name...?) is rattling on my cat. converter, since they are soooo loose. Can anyone tell me what is going on. By the way, dont hesitate to tell me my tranny is screwed, cause ive already made peace with that. (by the way in the cold weather it doesnt do it at all) when its hot and the car is hot, it rattles out of control and grinds like crazy. Thanks for any advice.

[eg6sir]

i'm running gm synchromesh and my tranny is fine.. its actually past due on a fluid change, that reminds me .. i'll go do that tomorrow, but i think i'm gonna use the Honda MTF and see if anything is different

[crazyxzer0]

this is interesting. I added ES inserts to the side torque mounts (front bottom ones) and my 2nd gear grind is gone now..

I remmeber reading that the rear mount and the torque mounts have affect on the tranny grinding. A note was that my torque mounts were completely shot. If you know how they look like, basically there was no rubber touching the center piece and connected to the outside piece.

[BlackType-R]

I had a 5th gear grind i put all new motor mounts. The engine is so rock soild now and the grind is gone.

[hondaholic]

My shifter had alot of play in thegears too.. all I had to do was change the shifter bushings and it all went away

[smo_ej2]

i have that infamous "3rd gear grind".

heheh i'm having it currently aswell, but i'm changing the whole transmission.
(i have one extra)

[95 civic B16A]

^^^lol i got 3rd gear grind too. but it only grinds if you switch real hard but if you do it slow its fine... i think it is my bushings to. What you all think?

[SittinTooLow]

this is interesting. I added ES inserts to the side torque mounts (front bottom ones) and my 2nd gear grind is gone now..

I remmeber reading that the rear mount and the torque mounts have affect on the tranny grinding. A note was that my torque mounts were completely shot. If you know how they look like, basically there was no rubber touching the center piece and connected to the outside piece.

Speaking of the energy suspension inserts... My B18B tore both my Del Sol's torque mounts, YAY TORQUE!! But does it matter if the OEM mounts are torn when you install the inserts? I wouldn't think so, but lemmie know OPINIONS!

[smo_ej2]

i just removed the transmission and noticed that my torque mount was totally finished. i hope my 3rd gear grind wasn't because of that.
if it was, i'm doing this for nothin :)
but.. i wouldn't have noticed it if i wasn't changing the tranny.
sooooo it's all good.

[SittinTooLow]

i just removed the transmission and noticed that my torque mount was totally finished. i hope my 3rd gear grind wasn't because of that.
if it was, i'm doing this for nothin :)
but.. i wouldn't have noticed it if i wasn't changing the tranny.
sooooo it's all good.

Was it your actual transmission mount?? Because yes I had a slight grind, more like a "click" noise in 3rd. My transmission mount was torn and had shifted about 1/10 of an inch to the front. Got new energy suspension inserts(over torn mounts).. fixed it! :TU:

[Ej1Trying2BeJdm]

honda mtf fluid takes away grinds i sware. i had a terrible grind in 4th gear i chnged my tranny fluid using hond fluid and in a week it was gone i sware im about to start promoting this fluid the additives they use are the best aroiund i sware it

[smo_ej2]

Was it your actual transmission mount?? Because yes I had a slight grind, more like a "click" noise in 3rd. My transmission mount was torn and had shifted about 1/10 of an inch to the front. Got new energy suspension inserts(over torn mounts).. fixed it! :TU:

it's the side-mount, at the front of the gbox/car.
it's totally finished.
i changed the tranny, and the 3rd. gear grind is now gone. :TU:

in the picture i've just took out the bad tranny :)
(pic taken 24.12.-06 christmas :))
it was a real pain to put in the new one. next time i'll take the whole engine off and then remove the tranny.

if someone wonders: yes, it is the d15b7 exhaust mani, my sportish 4-2-1 has a leak and my original d16z6 4-2-1 is parted out..

[SittinTooLow]

it's the side-mount, at the front of the gbox/car.
it's totally finished.
i changed the tranny, and the 3rd. gear grind is now gone. :TU:

in the picture i've just took out the bad tranny :)
(pic taken 24.12.-06 christmas :))
it was a real pain to put in the new one. next time i'll take the whole engine off and then remove the tranny.
if someone wonders: yes, it is the d15b7 exhaust mani, my sportish 4-2-1 has a leak and my original d16z6 4-2-1 is parted out..

I did the exact same thing with my old EJ2/D16y8. I did the exact same thing you did, and yep I should have pulled the entire motor. Also, speaking of the header, I will never again use a 4-1 for a street car. 4-2 is better all round for city driving. My old EJ had a 4-1 and it wasn't good for anything 5k+RPM. I got 4-2 on my del sol and it makes power in low-mid. gotta love it.

[95 civic B16A]

no help for me i guess??? lol

[SittinTooLow]

^^^lol i got 3rd gear grind too. but it only grinds if you switch real hard but if you do it slow its fine... i think it is my bushings to. What you all think?

While accelerating normally, If you can shift through the gears slowly, and it grinds.. thats your syncronizer. And say if you are "racing" and are shifting at redline and "slamming" the gears, and you hear some type of grind, It could possibly be partial damage to the syncro. caused from previous damage-- shifting mid-way through the gear and letting off the clutch too soon and you hear/feel the gear grinding away, that could be it.
Thats why I treat my new LS tranny like a baby, its perfect.. nothing wrong with it. Thats also why I sing to it late at night;) , and never powershift it. Because I know what its like to be stuck with a SCREWED tranny. And dont want to go through it again.

[andrewtaker986]

hahaha sing to it??? maybe i should do that! well my problem is in second gear where once in a while i shift 2 second and it grinda like crazy! i take it out put it in again and it grinds still, so after about a while after i drive from 1st to 3rd it goes away! sum ppl say my tranny is ****ed! also its hard to get into reverse sumtimes!!! btw i switched my clutch like 6 months ago

[SittinTooLow]

Yep, I've had every transmission problem in the book, with my old EJ2. It grinded all 5 gears. But motor ran great. Everyone that rode with me would ask, "how the hell does ur 5th gear grind!?!" -i dunno. Then I riced it out and sold the civic for a profit. And now im rollin in a LS powered del sol. built it up right, all new EVERYTHING. all name brand parts, JDM when it counts. Its been worth it.

[PandaCoupe]

SittinTooLow where from MS are you from? I thought I was the only Mississippian on the board

[SittinTooLow]

SittinTooLow where from MS are you from? I thought I was the only Mississippian on the board

I live in Clinton MS

I started out with a Milano Red EJ2... Turbo D16 swap, sold it on autotrader a couple months ago. Now working on my del sol project.
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3182501

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3175687

u may have seen it??

[Mugen_EJ1]

While accelerating normally, If you can shift through the gears slowly, and it grinds.. thats your syncronizer. And say if you are "racing" and are shifting at redline and "slamming" the gears, and you hear some type of grind, It could possibly be partial damage to the syncro. caused from previous damage-- shifting mid-way through the gear and letting off the clutch too soon and you hear/feel the gear grinding away, that could be it.
Thats why I treat my new LS tranny like a baby, its perfect.. nothing wrong with it. Thats also why I sing to it late at night;) , and never powershift it. Because I know what its like to be stuck with a SCREWED tranny. And dont want to go through it again.

I have the same problem right now, if I change the fluid to the honda fluid, could it help, it only grinds if I put 3rd over 4500, before that almost nothing, if i leave in neutral for a second and then throw 3rd it doesn't grind, what do u think?

[SittinTooLow]

I have the same problem right now, if I change the fluid to the honda fluid, could it help, it only grinds if I put 3rd over 4500, before that almost nothing, if i leave in neutral for a second and then throw 3rd it doesn't grind, what do u think?

What you are describing, sounds to me like a damaged syncronizer. My EJ did that, and turned out to be a couple of damaged teeth in third gear, caused from a previous horrific misshift,(getting caught inbetween 3rd and neutral and letting off clutch)
And you say you can throw it in neutral for a min and can shift to third smoothly?? Ya, thats a cure, ur basically double clutching almost. (while shifting, clutch it, throw in neutral,let of clutch, press clutch, put in gear. Thats the safe way to save ur syncros, but nobody really does it. But sometimes that all you can do when your syncro is screwed.
And YES.. honda fluid cures ALOT of problems. I've heard of Honda MTF curring ungodly ailments(grinds, noise) in trannys.